tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post8033933251554386583..comments2024-01-31T20:16:44.727-06:00Comments on Baxter's Ongoing Thoughts: The Story Behind the StoryC. Baxter Kruger, Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/18109712975412765686noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-1655034616925804192011-01-01T07:10:21.686-06:002011-01-01T07:10:21.686-06:00Has ever somebody beeing warned: No to breath too ...Has ever somebody beeing warned: No to breath too much?<br />Because there is only limited Oxygen at hand in the Air for all the people around te world?<br /><br />This is allways when you talk about "Papas" great and unconditional love . . . Guys & Girlz raise up and warn, that there is a danger in it . . . and constantly they have to balance out Love with Fear . . . but if you do your (balance)math properly,<br />youl find find that "zero" remains! And this is where many christians live...in NOTHING but an cold and empty room!<br /><br />Praise Paul for his idea in Romans 5.20: but where sin abounded, grace did abound more exceedingly!<br /><br />Uwe S.Dahlke, Pastor from Germany<br />www.czk.deUwe Dahlkehttp://www.czk.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-23321395403008009802010-11-09T18:47:56.741-06:002010-11-09T18:47:56.741-06:00Yes, the evidence that we have passed from death t...Yes, the evidence that we have passed from death to life is in the fruit we bear, but the basis for us passing from death to life is Christ. He has transferred us from darkness to light, and that is why we can start seeing life-like behaviour. <br />Paul wouldnt' be called a Pharisee for his views, because Pharisees try to pretend they aren't bad, because they hide behind the keeping of rules and other external behaviours, while ignoring matters of the heart and transforming relationship with God. Paul teaches the exact opposite of what the Pharisees teach!<br />There isn't a dichotomy between brokenness and sin/guilt. They are two sides of the same coin - the fact that we see God as our enemy, not as our Creator and Saviour. I'm not sure what eyeseefrankie is getting at in his/her comment on this.<br />Warren of SydneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-78785853610718067772010-10-27T00:41:28.451-05:002010-10-27T00:41:28.451-05:00How is it that Paul isn't just a pharisee for ...How is it that Paul isn't just a pharisee for wanting to use religion to hide the fact that he is bad. Even when evil is done to us; does it excuse our sin to medicate the pain. Why does it always sound like Jesus is made to sound like a psychologist and not the holy Son of God who does in fact hate sin. Brokenness is real but so is the guilt of our sin and march into rebellion.<br /><br />We know we have passed from death to life how?<br />When we obey Him and love the brethren.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-87791024656044005882010-10-19T17:51:40.028-05:002010-10-19T17:51:40.028-05:00Dear anonymous, Baxter is not basing a theology on...Dear anonymous, Baxter is not basing a theology on The Shack. He bases his theology on the Bible. He has found that The Shack expresses theological perspectives in a manner that resonates with his understanding of scripture and is seeking to explain Paul Young's life story which shapes the story of The Shack. In terms of the role of experience, it is to demonstrate that God is real and active in the lives of ordinary people, not just 'the force' or an absent fatherly figure. <br />Agree or disagree with the theology if you like, but don't make such unfounded and insulting allegations, especially behind the cloke of anonymity.<br />Warren of SydneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-50985937657876616882010-10-14T06:05:18.268-05:002010-10-14T06:05:18.268-05:00Followed a link here from the shack' website d...Followed a link here from the shack' website discussion forum. Just want to say that it's dangerous to base a theology on a work of fiction, especially when that fiction finds its base in one person's experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-76272522226348180432010-08-02T00:51:50.576-05:002010-08-02T00:51:50.576-05:00Correction to my post from July 31. The sentence i...Correction to my post from July 31. The sentence in the middle of the comment I left yesterday SHOULD READ: "From the time I was preschool age until I was 15 I WAS sexually abused BY men;" That kinda makes a huge difference in the meaning of the sentence. Thanks.Mike Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04691411713760638705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-61924965794661899442010-07-31T23:58:54.853-05:002010-07-31T23:58:54.853-05:00Baxter,
I live in Oregon but my family lives in Ch...Baxter,<br />I live in Oregon but my family lives in Choctaw County MS near Weir where much of the damage from the tornado happened. I know you are probably referring to the damage in Yazoo City, but thanks for encouraging people to pray for our beloved Mississippi.<br />I just finished reading The Shack for the 4th time in two years. It is amazing to me how much my story parallels Paul's. I grew up in Choctaw County in a Baptist church. From the time I was preschool age until I was 15 I sexually abused men; by a man from the church -- and by my uncle -- and by another close male relative. My mom had multiple affairs. I truly understand about growing up with the "I am not" syndrome -- I am not worth anything. So I hid in church, in religion, in Bible college, in the ministry. Then I began to hide in secret addictions, and I still find that the natural default for me is to hide in something or medicate somehow rather than run to Jesus. I greatly look forward to your book about Paul Young. I was privileged to hear him when he spoke at the Foursquare Church in Albany Oregon.<br />Concerning your finances -- there is a check in the mail. Blessings to you,<br />Mike LawrenceMike Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04691411713760638705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-46695951563532477862010-07-29T02:08:21.003-05:002010-07-29T02:08:21.003-05:00Thank you for the first chapter of your book. I co...Thank you for the first chapter of your book. I could hardly wait to read it. I have read THE SHACK but I know I need to read it again in the light of what you had described as Paul's life and journey. <br /><br />Your words flowed so powerfully as I was reading them and really felt the love of the Trinue God.<br /><br />Thank you for revealing Him in such depth of wisdom and love.OFTHEROCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587685579344072934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-63396446761065769202010-07-18T20:47:48.376-05:002010-07-18T20:47:48.376-05:00I want to thank you, Baxter, for your mind-blowing...I want to thank you, Baxter, for your mind-blowing vision of who God really is; or better, what they are really like. You are not afraid to point to a compassionate, involved, feeling Family, who, in spite of the wall of lies which blanket most of us, have already adopted us, and will succeed in convincing us of that fact.<br />I’ve been downloading your lectures, and have found them to be a wonderful antidote to the depressing fare found at my local Evangelical Church. I have to admit that in spite of my grace-based understanding of Christianity, I still would have found your concept of God’s nature to be too good to be true, had it not been for your connections with Grace Communion International. I came out of Old Covenant legalism with them, and was first exposed to Trinitarian theology in their publications.<br />Your most striking image, for me, was the Father who buys a bike for his boy, simply because he wants to see the lad enjoy himself. How can it be, that a 48-year old Christian, who has read tons of material on how to find, experience, and enjoy God, had never heard that our Maker really isn’t self-centered, until I heard it from you? THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT GOD! This fact alone, makes the universe worth living in.<br />This morning, I sat in on another Sunday school based on the book “Crazy Love” by Francis Chan. The gist of his message seems to be that something is terribly wrong with the Christian Church in the developed world. We are lukewarm, and not really in love with God. We don’t give our lives sacrificially to Jesus, and will be spit out of his mouth unless something changes. Much of what Francis says is true, and I believe him to be quite sincere. He offers good advice, when he warns that just trying harder won’t work. However, what he offers to fix our lack of zeal, seems mainly to be fear, with plenty of chiding for our lack of genuine response to God’s abundant love for us.<br />Francis asks if we would be satisfied with a heaven that had all the good stuff of this life, such as mansions, food, golf, fishing, etc., but no Jesus? I believe that the reason most wouldn’t really have a problem with it, is that we’ve been told about a God who doesn’t inspire love. In heaven, people throw crowns at his feet, because they cannot express their gratitude deeply enough. The real God makes clothing of skins for Adam and Eve, who have just chosen to distrust and disobey him, because they are in shame, and afraid, and he feels for them. How different from a deity which is quite capable of allowing billions of ignorant wretches to suffer forever because time ran out on them.<br />We love because he first loved us…Lee Schwartzrocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-24832871995702318962010-07-04T18:35:34.592-05:002010-07-04T18:35:34.592-05:00This book will be the real book meant for God'...This book will be the real book meant for God's children. Paul had to write the first book so the second book could be written. This will be a great blessing to all of us who live the human half life.It only has the physical answers. Your ministry will be blessed. God will provide. This is His work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-87560716462808865762010-07-03T00:42:11.617-05:002010-07-03T00:42:11.617-05:00Beautiful.Beautiful.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14603467924313735250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-60357778888949546232010-07-03T00:30:25.676-05:002010-07-03T00:30:25.676-05:00WOW. Can't wait for the rest of the story!WOW. Can't wait for the rest of the story!chrisfaillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17828898090106473886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-53161927229732614282010-07-01T19:10:08.780-05:002010-07-01T19:10:08.780-05:00Baxter,
Thank you so much for being my brother, I...Baxter,<br /><br />Thank you so much for being my brother, I am deeply indebted to His costly but free and lavishly given love!<br /><br />I ordered some of your books back a while ago and I must tell you I have in all my years Never ever been so awakened to what Father is doing in showing me the reality of having been and in the now, 4-ever loved...thank you so much for being You!!!Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630150578438657112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-83634892291564019512010-06-25T09:31:19.253-05:002010-06-25T09:31:19.253-05:00Brother, I love the Christ in you and can't wa...Brother, I love the Christ in you and can't wait to read the complete book!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075899658543380229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-89281462897490557102010-06-24T02:24:10.222-05:002010-06-24T02:24:10.222-05:00This was like fresh water for my sould. Thank you ...This was like fresh water for my sould. Thank you for sharing this! <br /><br />The message that we are included in the Life and Love of Papa and Jesus in the Spirit has certainly changed my life - and continues to do so. <br /><br />Thank you to you Baxter, and Paul, for taking a stand by telling us what we've always known deep down in our hearts...<br /><br />In Papa's Arms,<br /><br />Florian (Germany)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-8201924175959751802010-06-22T08:27:10.440-05:002010-06-22T08:27:10.440-05:00Thanks, Baxter, for sharing the story most people ...Thanks, Baxter, for sharing the story most people are not familiar with.<br /><br />What you see in Paul Young is Jesus Christ transforming one from the darkness, lostness, guiltridden, shameladeness of our inheritance from father first Adam into the life of the Second Adam through the power of the Holy Spirit. Being resurrected into life from death by His Love. Knowing the unconditional love of God which loves us and accepts us while we are yet sinners and living corruption. The Good News is that we will continue in this dual role until "our change comes" and "this corruption puts on incorruption". But, we will always be loved NOW and FOREVER by our Father who has placed us ALL inside of His life through Jesus by the Holy Spirit. <br /><br />Thank you Jesus, How GOOD can it get? As Bill Winn says, " We will have more please."Pastor Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289686075150349509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-4887702138791800682010-06-21T20:45:56.729-05:002010-06-21T20:45:56.729-05:00... if you know, email it to me..bcdianamarie@yaho...... if you know, email it to me..bcdianamarie@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-40219353902008013402010-06-21T20:42:04.546-05:002010-06-21T20:42:04.546-05:00How do you get there?????How do you get there?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-69476448754830890502010-06-21T13:23:31.010-05:002010-06-21T13:23:31.010-05:00thanks for sharing that. It is powerful. I sit i...thanks for sharing that. It is powerful. I sit in tearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-80942312452996232522010-06-20T20:33:11.911-05:002010-06-20T20:33:11.911-05:00So, so good, so very good to be reminded of the Be...So, so good, so very good to be reminded of the Best News ever - that our Creator/Redeemer, Father/Son/Spirit, meets us right in the midst of our failure and pain, to heal and restore us. No matter how deep the tragedy He's there with us in the brokenness, willing and able to comfort, heal and to start building us anew into all that it means to be fully human.<br />We're so blessed to hear and experience the Spirit's transforming words through his people like Baxter and Paul.<br />Immense gratitude.Wendy Normannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-6170558372829005532010-06-19T07:19:00.210-05:002010-06-19T07:19:00.210-05:00It's true.It's true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7876933803200242837.post-71489143210694870732010-06-18T22:06:16.022-05:002010-06-18T22:06:16.022-05:00Thank you Jesus that you are not afraid of my &quo...Thank you Jesus that you are not afraid of my "stuff" and can heal me right in the thick of it. And thank you too for sharing such insights with Paul and Baxter and then through them with me and my family! Thank you Holy Spirit, we'll have more please.bill winnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04515097337625658100noreply@blogger.com